Easy popup panniers
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Easy popup panniers
If any of you remember my previous popup with the top box fitted, you’ll know I like simple solutions... couple of holes, couple of spacers, done..
So I was thinking about how to fit panniers with a discreet system.
I have a set of Givi E22 boxes on my Harley using the SW-Motech SLC system. This is a relatively small mounting frame, but obviously, has to be bike specific.
After trawling through the SW-Motech online store, I’d decided to give the Harley Softail Street Bob frames a go.
This is the frame-
Quite narrow mounting points, flat and symmetrical.
It should fit nicely on the under seat rails.
Tools required -
I reckoned the rear mount should be just before the rail turns in.
Small pilot hole -
Big hole -
Done -
Then the front is just the same, and easy to line up if the rear is done first -
The SLC carrier has an optional mounting plate, but I found it easier to attach the mounting hardware directly to the box -
Bear in mind the mounting bracket on the box is positioned for my Harley. When I transfer them permanently I’ll tweak the position a little -
It’s taken me longer to write this post than do the job..
So I was thinking about how to fit panniers with a discreet system.
I have a set of Givi E22 boxes on my Harley using the SW-Motech SLC system. This is a relatively small mounting frame, but obviously, has to be bike specific.
After trawling through the SW-Motech online store, I’d decided to give the Harley Softail Street Bob frames a go.
This is the frame-
Quite narrow mounting points, flat and symmetrical.
It should fit nicely on the under seat rails.
Tools required -
I reckoned the rear mount should be just before the rail turns in.
Small pilot hole -
Big hole -
Done -
Then the front is just the same, and easy to line up if the rear is done first -
The SLC carrier has an optional mounting plate, but I found it easier to attach the mounting hardware directly to the box -
Bear in mind the mounting bracket on the box is positioned for my Harley. When I transfer them permanently I’ll tweak the position a little -
It’s taken me longer to write this post than do the job..
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Re: Easy popup panniers
Thanks for write up Sam. Now you have the extra luggage space where are you off to?
BTW, flying into Malaga on the 11th for a few days riding around Andalusia on Enfields! Going to be with my 3 brothers and 2 nephews. Looking forward to hopefully some decent weather.
BTW, flying into Malaga on the 11th for a few days riding around Andalusia on Enfields! Going to be with my 3 brothers and 2 nephews. Looking forward to hopefully some decent weather.
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Re: Easy popup panniers
ok, can i throw a spanner in the works? that looks neat, but how are they secured? is that tube you drilled in any way structural to the frame? just drilling a hole through the frame rail and bolting through isnt a solution that i would call safe, drilling the hole weakens the tube, tightening the bolt through thee frame without anything to prevent the frame crushing will weaken the frame considerably at that point. carrying any weight in the panniers or a pillion on the bike puts stresses on the frame that it might be too weak to now support. id have drilled the holes through the frame then put a bush through the frame and welded it in place. that way, tightening the bolt wont crush the frame tube, and weight on the pillion seat wont be concentrated on a weak spot because the bush will reinforce the frame.
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Re: Easy popup panniers
My thoughts exactly John, you jumped right in where I didn’t want to put my foot in it. Not like me at all
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Re: Easy popup panniers
Very good points..
The black rail is not a stressed frame and is attached to the rear subframe at 2 points.
The only point of that rail, that I can think of, is for a grab point when lifting onto the centre stand... but then they put it on both sides. Maybe to bungee luggage?
Tightening the bolts went beyond the settings of my torque wrench and there were no visible signs of crushing. It’s quite a solid rail.
There’s a 10mm hole through it (m10 bolts), with a 20mm o/d on the pannier frame. That give a reasonably large overlap.
Here’s the top box mount I had previously -
There’s only a single box, but with the leverage of the rails, it’s probably on par with a couple of side cases.
There were never any issues with a fully loaded top box.
I am fairly confident they’ll stay in place, but I’ll probably strap them together across the rear seat when fully loaded.
The pannier mount to the frames is more secure than the Givi single clasp.
The eventual plan is to open the outside hole to 20mm to sink the pannier frames in a bit more and then have them welded in place.
But I need to find a good welder near Alicante
The black rail is not a stressed frame and is attached to the rear subframe at 2 points.
The only point of that rail, that I can think of, is for a grab point when lifting onto the centre stand... but then they put it on both sides. Maybe to bungee luggage?
Tightening the bolts went beyond the settings of my torque wrench and there were no visible signs of crushing. It’s quite a solid rail.
There’s a 10mm hole through it (m10 bolts), with a 20mm o/d on the pannier frame. That give a reasonably large overlap.
Here’s the top box mount I had previously -
There’s only a single box, but with the leverage of the rails, it’s probably on par with a couple of side cases.
There were never any issues with a fully loaded top box.
I am fairly confident they’ll stay in place, but I’ll probably strap them together across the rear seat when fully loaded.
The pannier mount to the frames is more secure than the Givi single clasp.
The eventual plan is to open the outside hole to 20mm to sink the pannier frames in a bit more and then have them welded in place.
But I need to find a good welder near Alicante
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Re: Easy popup panniers
ok. it wasnt a criticism, just a concern. if its not structural then fair enough. i dont really know the architecture of the pop up.
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Re: Easy popup panniers
Great write up thanks for sharing. I have an SE too and yep they aren’t a structural feature of the bike.
I have some canvas BLAZE throw overs that require a rod sliding into the side of it to prevent it catching on the tail piece etc. Now you’ve given me an idea
I have some canvas BLAZE throw overs that require a rod sliding into the side of it to prevent it catching on the tail piece etc. Now you’ve given me an idea
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Re: Easy popup panniers
Looks great, I like the top trunk stuff best, we here in CA are allowed to split lanes (go between the cars on the road), most states it's illegal, so the trop trunk keeps us skinnier here. Are you allowed to to that there in the UK?
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