Turbo Kat

[Katman]

if its a kat. It must have started life as a kat, so i would expect it to at least have a kat frame and frame number,

Not so much clutching at straws Chris, just going by what others have said

That fuggly bike has both a frame AND frame number and retains some of the bodywork...

still prefer to look at that then some fences tho' with or without butts in place

[Russbusa]

Your not going to get a V5 document that says Katana without a Kat frame or headstock at least, if you have the headstock and frame number it still has to be a Kat on the paperwork. . . . . . Hmmmmm cheap xn85 for sale as its no longer a kat !

[Katgeezer]

Obviously you're right about the V5 Russ, I guess the discussion comes down to the point of view we take over kat-like bikes.
Personally, if a machine started life as a kat then it's a kat even if it's got a gixxer lump in it with upside down forks etc. There's plenty of specials out there where the only remaining kat parts are the frame and the bodywork, (I own one myself!!!) A strengthened kat frame is still a kat frame. BUT a one-off frame that claims a V5 purely because its got a legally stamped kat headstock welded in is NOT a kat.

However this brings us to the grey area that is 'inspired by' bikes and here I agree with Pedda in that we need to broaden our view point. Obviously we've done so with the XN's and bikes like Taff's etc. So.....clear as mud as usual

[callyboy]

Presumed heredity transmission of the Katana genes works dominant, we have to widen our view...

"cough cough" Hear Hear

Pete

[Katman]

A strengthened kat frame is still a kat frame. BUT a one-off frame that claims a V5 purely because its got a legally stamped kat headstock welded in is NOT a kat.

Ahh but it started life as a Kat he's just built a different bike around it, this to me is essentially more a Kat then any gixer wearing Kat bodywork or indeed GSX14's as they never at any point started out as a Kat!!
So basically if I take my registered Kat and cut the frame about & weld in new sections and then add a different engine and modify my bodywork, (which is pretty much what this bike is), then my regsitered Kat will suddenly stop being a Kat???Seems we had a the same kind of "discussion" with Marks 1000 that wasn't as the frame was from a 750!! Talk about keep moving the goalposts
So.....clear as mud as usual :*vegi-sausages*: :*vegi-sausages*:

[sparki]

call me sad but i like that bike.... it's got a purpose in life and as long as it's on a dragstrip getting it's neck wrung and blowing away other bikes then all is good

its got a kat headstock, fairing, tank and what used to be the side panels and a load of go! so why not.... it's gotta be fun in a straight line you have to admit

[Katgeezer]

This topic could run and run......

Jez I see what you're saying, same thing different end view. I guess you're right, but my meaning was that the frame retains the kat dimensions just with strengthening struts/braces rather than a bespoke frame built to house something completely different. But as I say, I see your point.

Right that's me done on this one.

[Katman]

Yep Chriis, see ya point too but it's what Russ said, "Your not going to get a V5 document that says Katana without a Kat frame or headstock at least, if you have the headstock and frame number it still has to be a Kat on the paperwork. . . . . ."

well this one has cos of the headstock!1

anyway as my 1st post said I just found the info for the pic that Paul 1st found, so go pick on him!!!

[Katgeezer]

Yeah Paul........

[Cat]

Taff has always called his a gixer kat tho..its a hybrid

Xn85 is kat inspired and is why we welcome to the club.

Any more for anymore?